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Post by lizziebythebeach on Oct 8, 2007 17:56:37 GMT
Hi everyone who knows about Camping Gaz!
I have this dedicated source in an outside dry locker - my question is (I imaging Ant will know...) IS - can I use this suppy in the winter?
The cylinder is well protected in its own outside/internal locker. The piping seems to be underneath. BUT I know the new thing is for propane cos it has a lower freezing point, so am I ok to go adventuring in the Winter with Camping Gaz?
Sorry if this is an obvious question but in the caravan I used Propane in the winter.
Incidentally I am talking using it in the UK and in the South of England!
Lizzie !!!
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Post by ant on Oct 9, 2007 7:20:31 GMT
Hi Lizzie. Camping gaz is butane ( same as the blue Calor gas bottles) it therefore does not vapourise very readily below 5 degrees C. You would get away with the outside temp down to 3 degrees if you lag your bottle in the locker, if the temp goes below 3 then put the bottle inside with you over night until you want to use it, the relatively warm bottle would then work for some time before the temp got to it. Just to complicate things, if you lag the bottle and then use the gas heavily ( ie propex heater, two gas rings going together) you will need to take the lagging off as the bottle temp will drop and you'll effectively be insulating the cold against the bottle! The simplest method however is to have two bottles, one in the locker connected and one in the van ( in the main part of it not under a seat locker as you want it to warm up), when one bottle shows signs of poor evaporation ( small flame on cooker or propex wont fire up) just swap them over. If you use this method, every now and again when you've got some soap suds in the sink just put some on the top seal of the bottle to check its not leaking in the van. Chances are the winter in the south of England you have no problems at all. Ant
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Post by lizziebythebeach on Oct 9, 2007 22:00:19 GMT
Hi Ant your reply has been invaluable. Thank You you are such a reassuring person to have on and off line!
I will take your advice and take the cylijnder on board if?when the tem falls below 5degs or so. I will also lag it in the outside locker first. Have visited th e local tip for a second hand cylinder as I was told a new one was £60................
thank you Ant for being such a good friend to all us 'new' motor homers. See you on site some day! Lizzie
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Post by djsooz on Nov 4, 2008 22:15:04 GMT
Hi All..especially Ant and Lizzie, Just been away for a long weekend in Rhonda (my C15). Had beautiful sunny autumn days but up here in Scotland that can sometimes mean a very cold night. It dropped to at least -3 but we were cosy in the evenings in the van cos we have the propex heater.......until the morning! It was really cold so we tried the heater - no joy. The kettle was also taking a while to boil - and I'm a total nightmare without my morning coffee as my partner will tell you. I got out the handbook to see if I could work out what was wrong with the heater and why the cooker was burning lower, then eureka ;D, I remembered a post on here from about a year ago about how camping gaz (which we have) won't evapourate at low temperatures. Took the spare into the van to warm it up, then after a while hooked it up. Result . Heater on and coffee in hand. Thanks Lizzie for asking the question and Ant for his invaluable info. Warm weekend was had by all and my partner thinks I'm a genius - even made me coffee next morning. I also opened the cupboard door under the sink so some of the heat would maybe reach the outside gas locker. Thought I'd put this in as a reminder to those who use camping gaz as its looks like it will be a cold winter. Shows again how great this site is. Sooz.
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